Add option to email results with CSCE
A lot of our examinees ask to know which questions they missed. Given that we're not protecting an answer sheet, there's little reason not to show them. I realize that it's not part of the workflow, only GLAARG allows this and applicants can get diagnostic tests elsewhere. But we still get lots of requests, almost as many as questions about when they'll get their CSCE (which we now send to everyone at the end of the session).
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06 Oct, '20
n2ygkARRL allows this and my workflow already includes it by request. https://docs.exam.tools/docs/cve/arrl/#can-answers-be-provided-to-candidates
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06 Oct, '20
Richard Bateman AdminThis is something that can *very* easily be added to the email CSCE feature; I plan to enable it at least for GLAARG, but could do so for ARRL as well if I get definite permission. W5YI is still resistant
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07 Oct, '20
Cory NQ1EYou may consider Laurel VEC to be on the allow-list for that feature as well. We've long allowed that practice.
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19 Feb, '21
Nick AA0NM2nd Cory - we provide results on a regular basis, people like to know what they missed. It will eliminate the need to have a printer available or save as a pdf and attaching to an external email.
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23 Feb, '21
Richard BatemanMy current thought on this is that I'll have a per-vec setting to specify whether or not the answer sheets should also be attached to the email. Long term I may make it a per-team setting as well (if allowed by the VEC) but I'm kinda questioning whether that's needed or not
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23 Feb, '21
N2YGNLess than 1% of our candidates have asked to know which questions they missed. Our current process is to include the results only if they ask. Why bother cluttering up everyone's mailbox with things they don't care or want? So the control should really be at the per candidate (and possibly per element) level, not at VEC level and possibly not even at the VE team level. Or build it flexibly to allow all the variations.
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23 Feb, '21
Richard BatemanI agree that candidates generally don't need it -- it would not be a separate email, however, it'd be an additional small attachment to the current email.
The issue here is feature creep =] Adding an extra attachment? Easy. Very easy, actually. Making it customizeable per-VEC? A little harder. Adding all the UI to make it customizeable per-candidate with defaults set per-team? Now it's become a full project, not something I can slip in between other more important things. -
23 Feb, '21
N2YGNAlso, while the current way we do it seems to be "good enough" it does put extra work on the examinee to look up the questions from the question pool numbers (e.g. T2C07). It would be most friendly if instead the full question text and answer choices along with which one was correct which one the examinee selected were indicated. As long as we're spending ones and zeroes creating the doc, let's make it user friendly.
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23 Feb, '21
N2YGNClutter is clutter whether it is one email with 2 attachments or two emails with 1 attachment each. (And I wasn't assuming you'd send it as two separate emails.) I do agree regarding the creeping features concern, but given my experience of rarity of usefulness/desirability, imposing it widely at VEC/team level seems excessive. At the candidate level perhaps with a checkbox when sending the CSCE perhaps? (We don't use the built-in CSCE emailing feature, so I don't really have experience with that interface.) Maybe this is a low priority project after all, after all the more urgent stuff...
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24 Feb, '21
Heather KM6ZQBI use the CSCE send button with both remote and in-person. Anything to make it easier to provide results to the applicant is appreciated.
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24 Feb, '21
Dave DiGiorgioI agree, an email results button would be nice.
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26 Oct, '21
HeatherWe still want this. We tested 73 applicants from a California college and they may need to submit the results to the professor if they did not get a CSCE. They basically need the results to show that they tested with us. We also offer results to most of our applicants as well.
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